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Ooooh! There's some lovely filth over here!
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 10:37:00 (GMT)

Listen mate. Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
John
- Monday, February 28, 2000 at 08:45:02 (GMT)

(sorry, the message board just became a notepad...) It gets emailed to me right!? (And no https from here, so hotmail is out)
rowanboy
- Friday, February 25, 2000 at 15:04:42 (GMT)

tcp, th_dport > 1023, th_sport = 80
rowanboy
- Friday, February 25, 2000 at 15:03:23 (GMT)

Yaaay - good idea. Beer == Good
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Friday, February 25, 2000 at 11:59:21 (GMT)

Hmm.. who wants to go out next week and get drunk?
rowanboy
- Friday, February 25, 2000 at 11:50:40 (GMT)

Can I just formaly announce that I have written a complete software development kit/integrated development environment for a new internet enabled programming language. It is more versatile than Java, comes WWW enabled, so it is ready for the future. It is certified Moose 1.2 compliant, fully object oriented, functional and seasonal, plus international. With built in support for GA, RAC, Cahoonas, Jublies, Lovelies, Mama, Moreenos, and Moomin, Taco algoriths aswell as Furieh and Furby tramsforms. Cross platform capabilities comes as standard as well as land/sea/air and low-gravity enabled front-end development. KiKiD integrates seamlessly with all household appliances and animals (domesticated).
DSP
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 14:35:33 (GMT)

Dear John,
I have just finished reading your book (shown below) and was amazed at how easy it was to pull complete mooses. I was so overjoyed that I managed to pull Edwina Curry and then Esther Ranson. Thanks very much!


Quasi Modo <quasi@notredame.fr>
Bell Tower, Notre Dame, Paris - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 14:13:25 (GMT)

Secretly, I think Java is a really, really, good language and I wish I'd thought of it first.
John
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 13:48:05 (GMT)

Hey! I've got web access! Nice! Also, I'd like to poo-pah Java, because every time I've ever used it I've had to first write a C++ interface to something or other, and its a bit like, hello, point...? Ancient chinese proverb - if the world is talking Mandarin, there's no point in learning Japanese, no matter how cool it sounds.
John
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 13:44:27 (GMT)

It would take me ages to explain to you what Kohonas were.
The Miami Cop from Bad Boys
Bad Boys,bad boys, what you going to do, what you going to do when the pasta cooks - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:53:58 (GMT)

By the way, found this little book. I bought and read it. I found it stimulating. So did my moose. I think John should lay of the stardom, though.



Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:53:49 (GMT)

No, Cohones is Spanish for bollocks.:)
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:52:27 (GMT)

No Rob it doesn't.





Don't rain on my parade. For I am the king of Java, and all of you are just peasants, humbly offering all your wordly belongings, for my extrordinary computing skills.

JAE
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:52:20 (GMT)

Isn't Kohonens slang for breasts?
DSP
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:49:07 (GMT)

I program neural nets, GA, DNNs and Kohonens in Java. Do I count?
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 11:17:22 (GMT)

Oh Look, it's me developing in Cold Fusion, as a full time developer now, and yes I am listening to R.E.M.
I know you think that there was no need for this, but I would have to say, that there is.
Developing is much more fun than supporting an application. Especially when it is W.W.W. Ready.

Jon
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 10:04:02 (GMT)

Least you forget Cold Fusion as well.
Jon
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 09:57:26 (GMT)

It would appear that there is a lot of money to be made from "Lets make a web-page about it". Want to stay ahead of the game boys, time to learn Java. Except, of course, you Jon Ellis, who remains ahead of the game with his Java ability. Apologies to everyone else I have implied does not know Java, when of course you do.
DSP
- Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 09:27:12 (GMT)

Looks like Rob is really branching out, what an interesting publication...


John
- Tuesday, February 22, 2000 at 16:57:09 (GMT)

I went to amazon.co.uk, searched for "pointers in c" and look what it came up with this time! I was shocked.


John
- Tuesday, February 22, 2000 at 16:14:32 (GMT)

In case anyone missed kevinwarwick.org.uk...
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Tuesday, February 22, 2000 at 09:37:48 (GMT)

Looks more like I want to be a blurry nun to me. Nice!
John
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 14:58:54 (GMT)

John! WOW! You never told us about your transexual-religious-aggression. This is really news to me! What about being a nun really makes you angry, John? The fact that you are the bride of god and he flagrantly shagged Mary. I could see this would make you angry.




Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 14:04:56 (GMT)

Blimey it looks like its not just me thats churning the books out, look what I just found! Obviously Rob got a somewhat less skilled cover artist than me though. Shame.


John
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:41:43 (GMT)

Okay, so I meant: Click here

John: 1000 dollars? not me.

rowanboy
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:36:17 (GMT)

Click here
rowanboy
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:20:55 (GMT)

I've been up 5 hours already. Shit! Also, Tom, did you send me something about giving some bloke 1000 dollars? Or was that an entirely unrelated Tom?
John
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:17:14 (GMT)

as always.
rowanboy
- Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:13:35 (GMT)

You fool.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 11:12:12 (GMT)

They are. Can't you here the voices? Screaming in the night they are.. Yes. Quiet now, but soon they will come. Yess. Soon. and then you will see who they are.
rowanboy
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 15:51:09 (GMT)

Errrr, who???
John
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 15:49:19 (GMT)

Hmm. Too quiet for my liking.... you're up to something.
rowanboy
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 15:07:02 (GMT)

Theres a screenshot here:-

here

and some blurb about it here.
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 10:08:21 (GMT)

I wish I'd taken a screen shot now :-(
rowanboy
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 09:53:33 (GMT)

Pointer In C
The previously mentioned fact has now turned to fiction. Damn Crap




Jon
- Friday, February 18, 2000 at 09:49:57 (GMT)

Dear John and John,
I saw your new book in Waterstones and was FLABBERGASTED. I didn't know that Software Engineering could solve our problem so easily. Maybe I could live a normal life now thanks to your wonderful book. I can't thank you both enough.



Arthur (1) <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
Everest (1), Nepal - Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 17:12:39 (GMT)

A man after my own heart! What a fabulous book, the motherland congratulates you John. Long live John!



Stalin <stalin@ussr.com>
Kremlin, USSR - Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 12:28:28 (GMT)

rowanboy: I prefer ignorance to arrogance.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 10:50:57 (GMT)

Aren't I the one who is supposed to drive jokes into the ground until they're not funny anymore?
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 09:45:06 (GMT)

BTW: Check this
Curtis Fong
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:47:36 (GMT)

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
qANQR1DDDQQDAwJMXy5XmwQUTWDJMr9GXeM8+94LfFjTG2xtw63l/5PNLsfpa5jC
VAjSUVZRUzhddfg8pZ13YeGBNJUjNX0/
=HaQ8
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

DSP
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:44:00 (GMT)

....ok so I should have put:
I found out who 'hates', erm, everything.....
Damn clever all the same.
I stand by my point that you can find out loads about things by poking about a bit... :-)

rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:29:45 (GMT)

Ermmmmm I could be wrong Tom, but I kind of think you've missed the point... For example.
John
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:25:53 (GMT)

Domain Name: CURTISFONG.ORG Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS1.MRV.COM Name Server: CURTIS.CURTISFONG.ORG Name Server: NS2.MRV.COM Name Server: STUPID.CURTISFONG.ORG Updated Date: 27-dec-1999
rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:20:42 (GMT)

I found out who hates the Maison de Stuff....

c:\nslookup

> server 158.43.128.1
Default Server:  resolver0.pipex.NET
Address:  158.43.128.1

> set type=ns
> fuckingsucks.net
Server:  resolver0.pipex.NET
Address:  158.43.128.1

Non-authoritative answer:
fuckingsucks.net        nameserver = stan.vmrdesigns.com
fuckingsucks.net        nameserver = cartman.vmrdesigns.com
fuckingsucks.net        nameserver = curtis.curtisfong.org

stan.vmrdesigns.com     internet address = 209.126.135.10
cartman.vmrdesigns.com  internet address = 209.126.135.5
curtis.curtisfong.org   internet address = 206.111.86.96
> really.fuckingsucks.net
Server:  resolver0.pipex.NET
Address:  158.43.128.1

Non-authoritative answer:
really.fuckingsucks.net nameserver = curtis.curtisfong.org

curtis.curtisfong.org   internet address = 206.111.86.96
> set type=soa
> curtisfong.org
Server:  resolver0.pipex.NET
Address:  158.43.128.1

curtisfong.org
        primary name server = curtis.curtisfong.org
        responsible mail addr = root.curtisfong.org
        serial  = 908914820
        refresh = 8000 (2 hours 13 mins 20 secs)
        retry   = 3600 (1 hour)
        expire  = 3600000 (41 days 16 hours)
        default TTL = 14400 (4 hours)
curtisfong.org  nameserver = curtis.curtisfong.org
curtisfong.org  nameserver = stupid.curtisfong.org
curtisfong.org  nameserver = xt.alphastate.com
curtisfong.org  nameserver = ok.nbase.com
curtisfong.org  nameserver = hork.nbase.com
curtis.curtisfong.org   internet address = 206.111.86.96
stupid.curtisfong.org   internet address = 206.111.86.99
xt.alphastate.com       internet address = 206.111.86.119
ok.nbase.com    internet address = 208.195.192.2
hork.nbase.com  internet address = 208.195.192.3
> exit

rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:13:17 (GMT)

plagiarism?
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 17:00:01 (GMT)

http://members.xoom.com/windycom/zx81app.html
rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:53:53 (GMT)

Oi, the message board, Huffman wants a word.
John
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:45:08 (GMT)

JOHN! How dare you plage.. playge.. copy me!?
rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:39:54 (GMT)

FAO: John Ogden and friends
You are invited to attend a spelling test tomorrow. Please come prepared knowing the correct spellings of words like "colleagues" (or did you actually mean colleges?) and "plagiarism".
Interestingly, I spell-checked the word "saidinterview" and got "saddleries" back. Strange.

rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:38:37 (GMT)

FAO: John Ogden and friends
You are invited to attend a spelling test tomorrow. Please come prepared knowing the correct spellings of words like "colleagues" (or did you actually mean colleges?) and "plagiarism".
Interestingly, I spell-checked the word "saidinterview" and got "saddleries" back. Strange.

John
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:20:14 (GMT)

FAO: Maison De Stuff sysop(s)

You are invited to attend a plagerism enquiry tomorrow morning regarding the undeclared origins of intellectual properties from which the Maison de Stuff was derived.

During saidinterview there is to be:

  • No direct eye contact with my college(s)
  • No threatening body language
  • No blantantly taking of the piss
Rest assured the charges are trumped right up.
John Ogden and friends
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:52:25 (GMT)

FAO: Maison De Stuff sysop(s)

You are invited to attend a plagerism enquiry tomorrow morning regarding the undeclared origins of intellectual properties from which the Maison de Stuff was derived.

During saidinterview there is to be:

  • No direct eye contact with my college(s)
  • No threatening body language
  • No blantantly taking of the piss
Rest assured the charges are trumped right up.
John Ogden and friends
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:52:15 (GMT)

I'm wondering if there is only one Maison de Stuff. I'm mean WE know that there is only ONE, but there might be two.... ;-)
rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:40:08 (GMT)

Naah - I don't own f*ckingsucks.net or anything.... I did post the link to the message board, cos i thought you would find it amusing... It was originally linked from NTK, quite possibly the finest site online (apart from maison de stuff obviously).
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:34:55 (GMT)

...so are you saying you did it?
Or are you saying that you wish you had? eh eh eh?!

rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:28:22 (GMT)

It's quite cunning really - the guy has earned at least 100 deep hack points in my book... Sorry if it caused offence John, just thought it was quite amusing (and wondered who would spot the *.f*ckingsuck.net magic)
Graf <graf@graf.org>
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:25:48 (GMT)

Imagine the effort that mister f*ckingsucks went to to sort out the DNS for that one!
rowanboy
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 15:10:26 (GMT)

WOW! John likes to keep everyone happy! Here's a lovely little book with all sorts of useful information in it. I particularly enjoyed the chapter 'Dealing With The Gas Man When He Comes To Read Your Meter' and the section on 'Cabbages: The New Deadly Weapon'. I really think this addition to my books shelf has brightened up the whole place!




Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 14:05:58 (GMT)

Tell you what, whoever you are, lets just go outside and have a fight.
John
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 10:16:48 (GMT)

Someone seems to have a grudge against the Maison de stuff.
Anon <anon.penet.fi>
- Monday, February 14, 2000 at 09:49:38 (GMT)

I second that sentiment.
DSP
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 16:05:16 (GMT)



My current enthusiasm for doing any work this afternoon.
Thankyou.

John
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 14:42:27 (GMT)

Jon,

Yes you are simple. Simple(y) the Best.
Jon
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 13:50:16 (GMT)

This message addresses two separate and distinct issues currently open here on the message board.

Firstly (to the Revolution Against Type Casting) does your institution consist of any C programmers, if so... ha!

Secondly (to something like a Jonathan), regarding the said hunny in the blue Renault Megane, I have it on authority that she is in-fact the living incarnation of the man who invented the ampersand (&), and as such isn't worthy of any reckognition, honey or not, mmm... Honey Nut...

Thanks for your time

I would like to give credit to Kellogs and to LLCoolJ for mentioning their product/song, and therefore save myself from any needless plagerism enquiries.
P.S. Thanx Jon for final installment of the Z assignment kick-back! That'll pay for my next service! Cheers man!

P.P.S. John Ogden... blow me!

P.P.P.S. Only Joking... or am I?
DSP
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 13:45:43 (GMT)

I wish to register a complaint, about the typecasting message, as it confused the hell out of me. Am I a bit simple?
John
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 12:31:49 (GMT)

Mr Hastings, it has come to my attention that you have not been smiling pleasantly at the Lady driving the blue Renault Megane on your way to work each day. Would you like to at least give us an explanation as to why? I mean come on, she is a bit of a hunny isn't she.
JAE
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 12:29:11 (GMT)

I Love you too fuckhead.
Jon
- Friday, February 11, 2000 at 12:27:00 (GMT)

This is a communique from the Revolution Against Type Casting. All actors have been typecasted into certain roles, Sarah Greene was a Kiddie's T.V. Presenter, Philip Scholfield, was a link man in a broomcupboard, and Bobby Davro a crap comedian. Now we have had enough. At 3'Oclock this afternoon a bomb will go off under The Chief Executive of the B.B.C.. You have been warned.
Mr Angelo DeMarco <angelo.DeMarco@eastenders.bbc.co.uk>
London, E27 - Friday, February 11, 2000 at 12:26:21 (GMT)

I've not been being quiet Mr. Ellis. I still love you. P.s. Tim the only explanation I can come up with is that the amazon search engine was someone's third year project, written by one of the 8-o-clockers (remember them?), and it follows a simple logical premise - pointers in c? Yes, they're an absolute (insert profanity here).
John
- Thursday, February 10, 2000 at 11:15:33 (GMT)

Finally finished the bloody Product Penninsula Graphics and the split up the Salvage pages to keep John happy.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 16:01:53 (GMT)

I don't know? What's so odd about that? I put in 'Fisting Vaginas' and I got a book about c++ come up. It takes what you write and then searches for what you are REALLY looking for. Your machine's psychic, you see. Psychic machines: sounds like a Warwi ck bullshit topic.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 14:21:49 (GMT)

OK Sports fans, here we go...

1. Goto www.amazon.co.uk
2. Search for: pointers in c

What do you notice about hit two in the results?
DSP
- Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 11:53:00 (GMT)

Imagine my surprise whilst flicking through radio stations on the way to work this morning. I happened upon a topical phone-in show on one of the lesser known local radio stations of the area. They had an anonymous caller, who sounded oddly familiar, saying:

"Its really anoying because... I've just spent three months in a coma after being hit by a super-sonic hazelnut launched by the Afgahnistan military during secret trials of an offshore-submersible nut acceleration platform. Of course their governmen t denies all knowledge, hence I am left uncompensated for loss of earings... er... earnings."

"Thus far, I have left the matter with Anne Robinson, and have heard nothing since; other than the obligatory threatening visits from bogus computer scientists wearing tea towels posing as ambassadors, ministers and minor deities."

"What am I to do?"


DSP
Westhoughton, - Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 10:00:19 (GMT)

Dear All,
From reading the past message board additions I see that certain parties have been silent as of late. This is unacceptable, and so from now on it's time to surface again, to take the power back.
This will start right now.

Jon Ellis <Jonathan.Ellis@phh.co.uk>
- Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 09:00:32 (GMT)

Strangely that picture makes me look more like Dale. Weird.
John
- Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 15:18:00 (GMT)

Oh contraire, THANK YOU John. No, really. I know that you would use the three million wisely. And you did! By publishing another SOFTWARE ENGINEERING book that you love so much. It's good to see that your superior intelligence is being put to good use: making acronyms and listing things with bullet points. Here's what I like about this book:

  • It's nice.
  • It's written in English.
  • It obeys ISO standards.
  • It's purple.
  • It's got AFGC.
  • You wrote it.
  • It's not filled with DRIVEL.
  • You've got NLAAFB WGBB.


Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 15:14:22 (GMT)

P.S. Rob, thanks for the cheque.



John
- Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 12:22:05 (GMT)

Yea the pictures are safe... A lot of them are a bit arbitrary though, I'd say theres probably only 40 good ones out of the 120... I don't think I'll get time to put them on the web today or tomorrow though... But they are on my PC here if anyone wants a look...
John
- Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 12:10:43 (GMT)

Did you delete the photos, John? Did you? You life hangs in the balance.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 10:03:05 (GMT)

Did you delete the photos, John? Tell me now, your life hags in the balance.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Tuesday, February 08, 2000 at 10:02:32 (GMT)

Well, not clinical really. I just took the book from his bookshelf. It was between Richard Mitchell's Microprocessor Systems and Kevin's March of The Washing Machines.
Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 14:58:19 (GMT)

Any clinical proof?
John
- Monday, February 07, 2000 at 14:37:58 (GMT)

He's done it again! Out of the closet and onto the bookshelves! But who is this guest author! Another rivetting buy, not that I bought it. I read Gasson's copy.


Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 12:44:13 (GMT)

Are you going to stand around to 2012 A.D.?
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?
I think I grew gray
Watching you procrastinate,
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?

- Incubus "A Certain Shade Of Green"

Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 11:14:37 (GMT)

Whose this geezer, Hitler?
Who does he think he is?
We'll show the fuhrer that surer and surer
And he will soon get his!
If 'e was much littler
'E would disappear!
'E's a nasty little basket with a black moustache and we won't 'ave 'im 'ere!

Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 10:42:10 (GMT)

Nice one! Software I wrote (its called Spider) has been sold and is being used on the net - right now! Its a very simple example, but I still think its pretty cool. See Channel TV.
John
- Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 16:09:17 (GMT)

Let me tell you a story, sit back and relax, get a cup of coffee and prepare for the happening of a lifetime!

Once upon a time, there was a sleepy little town in a kingdom called Berkshire. This quiet and placid place was disturbed only once a week when all the kingdom's teenagers released their angst at a club called RG1s.

One week at this club, the teeangers (and past-it-metallers) were letting out all their angst when the baron of the club, Mr. D. J. Brad decided to play a non-angst tune. The teenagers were in uproar, listening to the poisonous sounds of Britney Spears.
Not all of the occupants of the club were teenagers. Two of the people there were brave knights called Sir Lang and Sir Ganderton. They stood and watched in disgust as 'moshing' broke out in time to 'Hit Me Baby One More Time'.

'Shit!' said Sir Ganderton.
'If there is any song which needs metallising, its this one.' said Sir Lang and both knights started to headbang in a most amusing way. Privately, Sir Lang decided that it would be his mission to redo this song.

Five long days later, the evil Britney Spears remained untaunted until Sir Lang finished the metallised version of the song. Mr. Ganderton laughed. Oh, yes.

You too can hear this song by going to Noise: A Big Load Of Old Bollocks and clicking on the ear.

Rob Lang <sooty@bullet-systems.com>
My Lab, Reading, England - Thursday, February 03, 2000 at 09:35:31 (GMT)

Except for the love of a beautiful woman.
Jon
- Tuesday, February 01, 2000 at 10:49:29 (GMT)

There is nothing quite as wonderful as money...
DSP
- Tuesday, February 01, 2000 at 10:40:12 (GMT)