Nice, Tom Naaice.
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 16:26:11 2001

Here
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 15:36:52 2001

Where do you actually live Tom?
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 14:27:21 2001

I am boarding the loft and and then off to the gym later.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 14:23:30 2001

John: We are trying to arrange a reunion thingy in Swindon with Flymo and e'vrything, in the latter half of August. So far we cannot do it on the 21st....can you make it anytime around then and are there any times you can't?
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 14:23:27 2001

A response to Tom's question about the colour of the bathroom! A bit late I know!!
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 13:42:24 2001

Sounds odd.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 13:29:49 2001

Warm Terracotta!
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:51:04 2001

Is Mr. Hawkins in today?
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 11:49:00 2001

Tis Done. I did mean to create a function and do it properly so that I could stop it from firing again. But then I thought, well, what's the point.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 11:47:38 2001

Make It So.
Picard
- Fri Jun 29 11:46:51 2001

Clever. But getting annoying now. Please remove it... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:41:42 2001

What colour?
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:41:09 2001

That was quite clever Jon E. :-)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:40:46 2001

Jon : Yeah - don't worry its not as serious....I don't take it *that* seriously (otherwise I wouldn't be able to watch Blackadder!!)...It's just I don't think it should be used as an insult sort of thing....but anyway...I still love you Jon!!
I am enjoying the delights of redecorating my bathroom at the moment btw
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:40:25 2001

Oh and the "Looks like it is" comment was directed to Tom's "Is your message board fucked"? not to you Simon.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 11:32:27 2001

Simon: I am actually quite afraid that I have offended you. If I truly have offended you then this was not the purpose of the exercise. The whole purpose of the conversation was to be zenaphobic, to get annoyed with a person from a foreign country (I.e. America) for insulting an English Lady. Though I have to say that it would be impossible to take the war completely seriously, because if we did then we would have to admit that around 30 million people died and no-one is truly capable of understanding how many lives were destroyed. Basically as close as fuck is to swearing to half the population of the U.K. Me and you are likely to only ever remember 500 people in our lifetimes. That's 0.0016% of the people who died.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 11:30:41 2001

Hello Jon....
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:24:41 2001

That's my serious bit over anyway. Sorry it seemed a bit heavy but I wanted to say it.
Julia: Have you looked at the pictures section ie do you know what we all look like??!!
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:23:44 2001

Looks like It is.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 11:21:45 2001

No personal offence Jon, but I don't really think the war should be used in this kind of argument even in jest. It is nothing to do with our age group, and shouldn't be mentioned like this out of respect to those who were involved.
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:21:06 2001

Why? Has everyone taken a 'be rude and nasty to each other' pill?
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 11:17:42 2001

Is your message board fucked?
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:17:42 2001

Julia. How can a town require TWO handbag shops? I'm thinking competition would be quite fierce.. Talk about handbags at dawn!? Lots of ammo anyway... ;-)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:17:04 2001

Bitch! (And I don't mean Jules!)..
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 29 11:12:51 2001

Calm down everyone!
Julia: So what do you do when you are not working in the week?
Simon
- Fri Jun 29 09:29:13 2001

Stanhope, even though Julia has called me gay and insulted my chatting up technique, I feel that I am urged to point out to you that this is an english board, and therefore if you would like to use such words as colour, then they should be spelt correctly. Obviously this hasn't happened yet, but I am sure that soon you will fall foul of americanisms. Oh and don't insult 1) English people and 2) ladies.
honestly you come over here during the war (World War II (1939-1945)) stealing all the women while english men are dying in the war. I mean what is the frigging point of that?
I bet that if I were gay I wouldn't fancy you. Oh and Julia, I'm not gay.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 29 07:54:35 2001

Seems a bit harsh...
John
- Thu Jun 28 21:37:07 2001

shut the fuck up, you british panzee
stanhope
wash. NC, US - Thu Jun 28 21:19:12 2001

I live in NW3, but amazingly Rob is from Mill Hill (ish), if you don't know him maybe you know some people he knows...?
John
- Thu Jun 28 21:13:44 2001

I really don't know why I'm bothering but heregoes! Mill Hill is a small village, very green, very expensive. It consists of a High Street called The Broadway where I work one day a week in one of the two handbag shops. Exact postcode:NW7, various towns bordering Mill Hill are: Hendon, Edgware, Borehamwood, Watford! I live off a road called Lawrence Street. There we go!!! And may I add, you are lucky if such a lovely girl like myself returns to this board after all this interrogation and rigmorale!
Julia
Definitely Mill Hill, - Thu Jun 28 20:11:28 2001

Let me explain! As I mentioned before I stumbled across your web-site thru a web ferret search, and bothered to read your lovely phrasebook! It takes alot to make me chuckle so I thought I'd relay to you the joyous news that someone totally independent of your close group has taken an interest and actually laughed at your web-site! Your humour reminded me of my own group of friends! Jon E ! Pay heed to your own advice, your board is particularly macho, unless you are gay,which I suspect you may be by your biting intonation, you should otherwise welcome a female visitor as I am certain you don't get them all that often!!!!!!!!!!
Julia
- Thu Jun 28 20:00:28 2001

I hate it when you lot are working.
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 28 16:23:40 2001

Does everyone remember that time when that police woman saw us with that rubber sword outside Radstock? That police car screeched to a halt!!!
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 28 11:54:44 2001

Nice idea, Jon. Perhaps we can get John to grow his hair long again to increase the feminine rating of the board. Perhaps we can even get him in a skirt. Again.

This weekend, I'm off up to Leicester somewhere to live roleplay (The Lorien Trust Moot). This involves a lot of hitting people with large rubber swords (just like John has) and screaming and drinking! See you all next week.
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
MADLAB, Reading - Thu Jun 28 11:43:33 2001

Here is a nerdy picture of my house wiring. It's normally a bit neater, but I had just moved it all up a slot to fit the SonicWall in. You can clearly see that the SonicWall has flashing lights (real networking).

Click to enlarge...
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 28 09:18:30 2001

Good plan Mr E. Your mistake was posting it on the board. Doh!
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 28 09:10:34 2001

Rob and Tom: Perhaps if we let Julia think that we now believe her, she might continue to visit our board, bringing much needed femininity to an otherwise masculine board (except John). Then one day she'll let slip a silly mistake, AND we will laugh.
Jon E
- Thu Jun 28 09:03:35 2001

Mr Stanhope, are you gay or something?
Jon E
- Thu Jun 28 09:00:31 2001

The proof is there Rob, she's mad. She came back here more than once!
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 28 08:57:01 2001

i was searching for my name and somethin popped up that said halloween on stanhope road. crazy huh? nice pictures. not much of a storyline though. keep up the work
stanhope
wash., NC - Thu Jun 28 04:59:24 2001

I'm really suspicious about this Julia now. The whole Mill Hill thing is really suspicious. After all, Mill Hill is a NW postcode, not really north, like Southgate or Tottenham. Most people would say 'Barnet' as well, as people are more likely to have heard of Barnet. I am of course, suspicious to the core when women start posting here unless they are:

1. Girlfriends of one of the regulars (quite understandable)
2. Mad.

Is that so Mr. G? I think not. I think you were just thinking of a number 2! THE BIG STEAMING LOG THAT IS WINDOWS!
Linus T
- Wed Jun 27 15:42:03 2001

I would just like to say that login is better, however my corporation used logon mainly because I mistyped login.
Mr. Bill Gates
- Wed Jun 27 15:00:29 2001

DSP: Have you noticed that I've already replied to your message now that you've sent it to the correct address? You piece of Sphincter.
Jon E
- Wed Jun 27 14:57:58 2001

Login it is. This is far more unixy than Logon which is for Microsoft girls.
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 27 14:53:12 2001

Now you come to mention it, i did send it to: flymo@globalnet.co.uk
But that doesn't change the fact that (put bluntly) you are a twat.
dsp
- Wed Jun 27 14:48:47 2001

Yeah...got to agree there....log on is better....you put a computer on a network, then you log on to the network with the computer. Also I imagine you recently attached logs on to your raft!
Simon
- Wed Jun 27 14:47:45 2001

I think login is the better way of saying logon. logon just really thinks it should be 2 words, not one. At least that's what your mom said.
jon E
- Wed Jun 27 14:05:41 2001

DSP: You piece of GOBSHITE, what address did you send it too? More than likely you are so frigging gay that you sent it to flymo@globalnet.co.uk didn't you? Well don't. Send it to JonAtHome@theEmailCo.net or Jonathan.Ellis@arvalphh.co.uk.

- Wed Jun 27 14:04:27 2001

Hi Simon and JonE.
JonE: answer my god damn email you twat.
Aside from that, I'm v. well thanks.
Just got back from an away day with work.
We all went to the Lakes and built rafts (literally)
Absolutely fantastic, I am high motivated.
Offended the company owner/MD by asking if he was the first honest business man. (Whilst drunk)
Possibly career limiting?
PS. Also, could I have your thoughts on something...
Is it Login or Logon? Or both? If so when and why?
dsp
- Wed Jun 27 14:00:33 2001

Hello Mr. Unmanagable.
Jon E
- Wed Jun 27 13:57:28 2001

Cheers for that Jon. Hello as well!
Simon
- Wed Jun 27 13:54:11 2001

Simon is in love with Al Hall.
Jon E
- Wed Jun 27 13:53:08 2001

Hello Doctor (Nick?). Argh, to much Simpsons.
Jon E
- Wed Jun 27 13:52:46 2001

Hello Tim! And how are you sir?
Simon
- Wed Jun 27 13:52:03 2001

Hey everyone. Hello!

dsp
- Wed Jun 27 13:48:05 2001

I am not a hobby horse, I am a hobby lion.
Simon Quinlag
- Wed Jun 27 13:46:32 2001

Julia and Mike: Hi! tell us more about your good selves!
John: Green Jelly??!
Simon
- Wed Jun 27 13:41:13 2001

Hmmmmmph. Gotta work soon.
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 27 09:16:54 2001

No more Pimms... the weather is back to DULLNESS.
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 27 09:15:30 2001

Well hello there. I'm a slightly curious orange.
Curious Orange.
- Wed Jun 27 08:42:13 2001

p.s I can assure that Pimms is beeutiful, esp. with chopped apples, peaches etc. Would also like to mention dissapointment with Down Under, how did you find out it was about heroin?
Jules
- Tue Jun 26 19:31:36 2001

Hi there guys!! Sorry to shatter your conspiracy theory but I'm not a plant, I'm a real living breathing girl! John what area of north london does ye abide? Have you heard of Mill Hill, little village, tres boring, but v. pretty!
Julia
Mill Hill, - Tue Jun 26 19:27:00 2001

I prefer your version Jon.
John
- Tue Jun 26 16:21:52 2001

I've heard that Down Under by Men at Work is all about the annual migration of wallabies from Australia up to Bristol Zoo.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 26 16:14:55 2001

John, You're definately one smart puppie.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 26 16:12:39 2001

Bloody hell, I've just found out Down Under by Men At Work is about taking Heroin. Childhood illusions shattered or what?
John
- Tue Jun 26 16:07:17 2001

Pink Floyd, One Slip.
John
- Tue Jun 26 16:00:32 2001

POP Quiz assholes
What song do these lines come from:

Was it love, or was it the idea of being in love?
or was it the hand of fate which seemed to fit just like a glove?

Come on answer me you ignorant pigs.

Jon E (Slightly aggressive).
- Tue Jun 26 15:53:49 2001

Thanks rowanboy (Tom?) for saying hello! You don't know how much that means to me!
Mike
- Tue Jun 26 15:53:43 2001

That sounds like a superb idea Tom. We did it last year along the Thames from Reading (in fact here's the pictures), and it was really nice. Rob organised it. I think it needed quite a few people to make it cost effective, but then, it was a fairly large boat, maybe there are smaller ones available. I think you're bound to be faced with the standard impossibility of getting all of us to be in the same place at the same time though...
John
- Tue Jun 26 15:50:01 2001

Now that is an idea. A riverboat cruise. Why not guys?
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:41:41 2001

Yeah. Thats what I said to Sarah at lunchtime. I should stop now, as I have to drive to (dull) Cambridge this evening. Sigh.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:38:18 2001

I don't think I've ever actually had Pimms. My grandma assures me it's very nice, and as she introduced me to G&T which I adore I'm inclined to trust her judgement... I always feel you ought to be cruising along on a river boat whilst drinking it though.... no?
John
- Tue Jun 26 15:37:26 2001

You can tell that I am home by the fresh pictures of my garden I guess...
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:36:32 2001

That would be YES. Mmmm PIMMS.

Ps. Hi Mike.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:33:01 2001

My cunning judgement leads me to believe you are at home today, Tom.
John
- Tue Jun 26 15:32:12 2001

I still feel like I'm being ignored.
Mike
- Tue Jun 26 15:30:20 2001

John. I know. But I am not in pain.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:25:40 2001

Tom you are a muppet of the highest order.
John
- Tue Jun 26 15:25:10 2001

And THIS is the remains of last nights bonfire.. Honest, there were no dodgy moments with sparks igniting surrounding dry gardens.

Beer was involved.
pyroboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:25:06 2001

Right. This is a plant:

rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:23:10 2001

Foiled by a dodgy free "You will not link to our website" place. :-(
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:21:07 2001

Anyway. I am not a plant. This is:

rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:20:25 2001

Anyway. I am not a plant. This is:

rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:20:20 2001

Shit.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:19:33 2001

Hello. Is this the first time you've added a message?
We don't have many friends. We get all excited when someone
new adds a message, thinking we've found a new friend, but
then, more often that not, we never hear from them again.
So please, spare a thought for us socially under-privileged
individuals, and come back a while after posting to see how
we responded, and maybe, if you really feel like it, post
again. You'd make us all very happy. Thankyou.
For posterity, cos I KNOW you will remove that when sober.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 15:19:00 2001

Why is it when I first started posting a few weeks back no-one said hello? Do I need to change my name to Mikaela?
Mike
- Tue Jun 26 15:00:08 2001

Tim, what's an alufé?
John
- Tue Jun 26 14:56:39 2001

I think you're a plant Tom. Isn't it suspicious how, errr, oh you're just plain dodgy ok?
John
- Tue Jun 26 14:47:34 2001

Trust No-one.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 14:41:33 2001

Are we heading inexorably towards a request for green jelly?
John
- Tue Jun 26 14:36:59 2001

John: Nice. As soon as you are fully mobile again we will sort out a barbeque weekend...
Simon
- Tue Jun 26 14:20:19 2001

I AM the real Rod Hull!
Rod Hull
- Tue Jun 26 14:19:03 2001

Tom, since when have you become a yardy?
John
- Tue Jun 26 13:31:34 2001

John. Watch you back. They are after you.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 26 13:26:23 2001

Simon, I'm just about able to walk normally now. I've come down to South Bank for the first time today, and this evening I have the pleasure of Pops' company for a curry, believe it or not. I think he is a plant - isn't it suspicious that I also eat curry?
John
- Tue Jun 26 13:14:46 2001

I think Julia is a plant - is it not suspicious that I also live in North London...?
John
- Tue Jun 26 13:11:31 2001

Hmm. Quiet day.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 25 19:52:58 2001

Oh. Hi Julia.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 25 09:35:03 2001

I got a bit burned.... it tired me out! I fell asleep at about 7:30 pm and woke up this morning. But i FEEELLLL GOOOD!
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 25 09:34:51 2001

Hands up (slowly) if you're sunburnt after yesterday's fantastic weather?
ps. Julia: Hi. May I be the first to say hello, (damn, already did that)
dsp
- Mon Jun 25 09:31:28 2001

Hmmm......yes I had forgotten about 'I am him'!
John: Are you able to escape from your flat yet?
Simon
- Mon Jun 25 09:12:59 2001

Hi there lads Just stumbled across your site, well your phrasebook actually!! Highly amusing, use many of the words myself, esp. random, v, blatantly and moon on a stick although I also like to use "I am him" as said by Rod Hull from the same show! Anyway just thought you might like to know that other people are reading your site apart from your good selves! Julia (20/f/london) p.s your site came up on web ferret on a search of mine for neanderthal man haha, no word of a lie!!
Julia <julia.donoghue@btinternet.com>
London, the northern area of the above - Sun Jun 24 15:10:19 2001

Ooooh. Hung over. :-(
rowanboy
- Sun Jun 24 11:32:27 2001

http://www.sonicwall.com/products/soho/index.html
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 22 14:40:41 2001

I have just put in a NEW firewall outside my old one. Double layers! I am using a SonicWall on the outside as it can do NAT to a DHCP address which FW1 cannot. It only cost the company 260 quid too as it is a NFR - Not For Resale - jobby...... NICE NICE NICE!
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 22 14:38:31 2001

Sounds VERY NOT innocent actually.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 22 14:36:40 2001

It all sounds a bit odd.
Simon
- Fri Jun 22 12:53:38 2001

He just loves the attention.
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 21 17:16:29 2001

John, you've still not let us know what you did.
You are being irritating alufé?
dsp
- Thu Jun 21 16:31:58 2001

Still at home. Bloody bored. Bandages and stiches can't come off until a week on Friday, apparently. Besides doctors and nurses (oh and a plumber) I've not seen another human being for for whole days. I think I'm going mad.
John
- Thu Jun 21 16:20:32 2001

Is there anyone there?
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 21 15:21:30 2001

You were having sex with the Greek couple. While administering the food mixer to the genitalia of the male, the water popped out of it's tight hold in the genetalia of the other, hitting you on the back of the head. Do I win the smartie?
Very Rude Person
- Thu Jun 21 00:53:38 2001

Did the naked greek woman have nice melons?
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 20 12:52:31 2001

OR. John was about to blend a naked greek couple and got hit by a defensive Water Melon?
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 20 12:52:11 2001

Nope. I recon John was about to blend his melon to make punch, when he glanced at the TV. It was showing a programme about greek gods (naked) and he accedientaly put his hand in with the melon. Nice.
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 20 12:50:42 2001

I love Java, If it was female, I'd go down on it.
Unneccessary Jon
- Wed Jun 20 12:22:28 2001

Let me guess, you cut up the water melon with the blender, but forgot to put the lid on and so the juice went everywhere. You then slipped on the floor (which had been jucified) banged your head, got knocked unconscious and started dreaming about a Greek Lesbian couple?
Jon E
- Wed Jun 20 12:21:18 2001

Hey boys and girls, I am still at home, but in slightly less bandages. I had an accident involving a water melon, a naked greek couple, and a food mixer, although its a lot more innocent than it sounds! Honest.
John
- Wed Jun 20 12:11:42 2001

I like Java. It makes me smile.
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
Highmead Close, Reading - Wed Jun 20 00:29:32 2001

I was about to answer... but the Internet access in London got cut off! Right. Yes I do. Not done a huge amout with it, but it looks cool.. bit bulky for my lil sparcs though I think.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 21:24:11 2001

I'll ask the question again Tom, Do you like Solaris 8?
Jon E
- Tue Jun 19 15:50:15 2001

Funily enough, I was visiting that website last night. It is a very good website. Also I currently have been printing off the SPARCStation 4 service manual. Now I wonder why I've been doing that.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 19 15:00:36 2001

I currently have a sparc 4. (Don't have enought to get a sparc10 or 5). Boo hoo, but at least it's a step in the right direction. Oh and ofcourse it's on the 110Mhz processor.

- Tue Jun 19 14:59:08 2001

What do you think of Solaris 8?
Jon E
- Tue Jun 19 14:58:12 2001

Currently, I have two Sparc 5's (one 110Mhz and one 85 Mhz), two Sparc Classics (55Mhz), and an *old* Sparc 2. You can find out about them at http://www.obsolyte.com...
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 14:54:37 2001

This week, I will mostly be using Solaris 2.6 as it is supported by Checkpoint :-)
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 14:52:04 2001

Tom, sorry about the harshness the other day. However I would like to ask you which version of Solaris are you using, as I might be able to give you a present.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 19 14:45:02 2001

Um. Yeah I did. Good though I thought!
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 14:16:19 2001

Rowanboy, However you can have ASP at INNOVATIVE NET SOLUTIONS LTD.
From previous customers: "It's good, I like it."
"It smelt of cheese when I looked."
Jon E
- Tue Jun 19 13:38:59 2001

Tom, I think you just made that word up, didn't you?
dsp
- Tue Jun 19 13:37:14 2001

That would be very lizardesque of him!
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 13:34:01 2001

John. Do you shed your tail whilst being chased by predators? And have subsequently been fitted with a prosthetic tail?
dsp
- Tue Jun 19 13:27:50 2001

AH. Um, what did you do exactly?
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 13:20:22 2001

Tom, I got your voicemail message - I can't really easily get out this week! Plus I'm not supposed to drink (alcohol that is) with these tablets...
John
- Tue Jun 19 13:17:13 2001

This week I will be mostly lying around at home in bandages, following a visit to hospital yesterday. Which was nice.
John
- Tue Jun 19 13:13:56 2001

Morning all.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 19 09:10:44 2001

Hmmmmmmmm......... Actually, I think it's mainly the design side that I need doing anyways... The "active" code I can probably do.. I can't have asp as my isp (ho ho) has unix boxes.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 17:37:54 2001

Depending on your requirements I can do it. Can't do manly perl, I'm a microsoft tart (its all ASP)
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 16:20:09 2001

Right. Who wants to get paid to design my website?
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 16:06:54 2001

NICE DSP NICE... Looks like every single play we ever did in Drama....
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 16:01:03 2001

OK folks, check this out: fight scene
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 14:45:22 2001

damn html! its not how I earn my living - honest
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 14:05:58 2001

</clipboard>
SmartSetup.exe, 1.0.0.103
Agent.exe, 1.0.0.12
Atlas2Monitor.dll, 1.0.0.19
Atlas2Sys.dll, 1.0.0.36
Atlas2Report.dll, 1.0.0.112
Atlas2Web.dll, 1.0.0.86
RegistrationTest.exe, 1.0.0.0
AtlasExtract.dll, 1.0.0.0
</clipboard>
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 14:05:26 2001

If anyone knows about multivariate gaussian analysis, please go and get some therapy. Just thought I ought to write something nerdy.
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
MADLAB, Reading - Mon Jun 18 13:24:44 2001

Elllliissss!? What IS that fish smell?
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:57:54 2001

There are basically two NAT modes.. "Hide" and "Static". Hide is a many to one mapping and is one way. Static is a one to one mapping and can be both ways.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:57:16 2001

What I'm getting at is that nodes on the internal network are inherently safe from the Internet. Whilst only the NATor would be at risk. Right?
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 12:41:31 2001

It does network address translation.
Could that be configuted to route to nodes on an internal network? Or is that strictly one way?
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 12:40:36 2001

dsp: But not exactly a firewall?
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:25:46 2001

Oh hang on. Windows 2000 server has it built-in.
Thanks Uncle Bill.
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 12:18:25 2001

On which note, I heard that Jon E smells of fish.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:16:04 2001

Hey Mr Rowan, what's the solution to my address translation problem?
dsp
- Mon Jun 18 12:14:30 2001

I like the return of the message board to its original state of mindless bitching.
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:10:51 2001

But then, I enjoyed the intellectual challange... btw, what firewall do you have Mr E?
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 12:09:31 2001

OI. Who was that?
Jon E (TRUE).
- Mon Jun 18 11:13:44 2001

PS. Tom... HA HA (you tool)
Jon E
- Mon Jun 18 11:01:59 2001

Tom, to answer your question if I installed Solaris over a network, and all the other stuff. NO. I bought a firewall, plugged one end into my switch and the other end into my cable modem. I also plugged it into the mains (this was the difficult bit as it required swapping a 3 way gang for a 6 way gang. I then turned it on. However this is soon to be advanced by a sunstation (5 or 10) which will be nice.
Jon E
- Mon Jun 18 10:53:48 2001

I am in London this week. John...?
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 18 08:57:14 2001

Just like to say hello from this wonderful site, We partaking in Red Wine - ........and Pepsi Max. Now have fun you lot - see you soon! (more later)
Simon, Susanna, Popz and Darren
Maisons Lafitte Campsite, France, Near the bar - Fri Jun 15 21:16:06 2001

I was going to say you can download Personal Web Server, which as far as I can tell is basically IIS from Microsoft's site for free. But I probably don't have to now do I?
Mike
- Fri Jun 15 17:58:59 2001

Nice one HASTINGS ;-) Firewalls *are* best dedicated, but I'll have a look about and see whats available.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 17:58:54 2001

Ignore previous query (you probably did already!) I worked it out for myself!
John
- Fri Jun 15 17:46:22 2001

Nice Tim! This afternoon I've discovered (although maybe you all knew already) that 'cos we're using IIS for the maison etc, we can use ISAPI extensions - basically meaning I can write CGI like stuff in a DLL in Visual C... Which is nice... The only slight snag I've just discovered is that once you upload your DLL you can't then overwrite it or delete it. I imagine you'd have to shutdown IIS before it'd let you do that. Doh! Any way I can get IIS running locally to test?
John
- Fri Jun 15 17:03:25 2001

Hopefully, this summer Clare and me are getting a our own place. And the plan is to get broadband of some description. Like most broadband users, I want more than one PC connected, but they only give you one IP address, aparently.
dsp
- Fri Jun 15 15:54:36 2001

Where is this Tim, out of interest? Home, office or other?
John
- Fri Jun 15 15:35:38 2001

It has to be Windoze because I can't afford to dedicate a machine to this job. So I would be using it for other things too.
dsp
- Fri Jun 15 15:26:38 2001

There are loads of firewalls available that can do NAT (Network Address Translation)... a possibility would be IPchains (IPTables!?) on Linux. DO you really need to run it on NT? You could try something like Wingate or WinRoute Pro (http://tucows.easynet.net/winnt/preview/1869.html)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 15:17:56 2001

That would be several machines behind it.
The important thing is address translation so that cable modem can be used as a gateway.
What do I need?
dsp
- Fri Jun 15 13:31:40 2001

dsp: I'm using FireWall-1 on Solaris 2.6, with an eval license. May even buy it one day when I'm rich.

Free NT firewall... hmm... does it have to protect just that system or several behind it? Back in a hour or so.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 13:27:35 2001

Right. It feels like time for a pint. Feel free to join me at the Crown in Theale.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 13:26:13 2001

Firewall Related Question: I want a free firewall to run on a PC running NT. What do I use?
Also. Tom, what firewall have u set up and am I right in thinking its running on Linux?
dsp
- Fri Jun 15 13:25:41 2001

As you can see, it was not a trivial task. :-)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 13:24:13 2001

Jon: Did that half hour include building a JumpStart server, installing Solaris over the network, applying all the recommended security patches, hardening the OS so that a firewall isn't really needed, adding (compiling) openssh and binning nasty ol' telnet and ftp, and THEN installing and configuring firewall-1?
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 13:23:03 2001

I've never set up a firewall.
Mike
- Fri Jun 15 13:20:59 2001

...and after that would it still not give you any Jon?
Al Hall (pretend)
- Fri Jun 15 11:39:42 2001

It only took me about 1/2 an hour to get my firewall working.
Jon E
- Fri Jun 15 09:26:25 2001

My new firewall is in place after hard work last night... now I have a Sparc 5 free for more cpu intensive things :-)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 15 08:26:21 2001

Nice. By the way has anyone been to AMT Espresso in a station or something? Get a pretzel and a freshly squeezed orange juice - very nice indeed. Coffee's not bad either.
Mike
- Thu Jun 14 17:38:41 2001

Bloody hell I seem to have done most of it. Right, I'm going to get something to eat.
John
- Thu Jun 14 17:37:33 2001

Well at least I haven't got shed loads of marking to do. Oh, shit, I actually have.
John
- Thu Jun 14 14:16:23 2001

Hmmmm but then problems with Microsoft software can't usually be fixed in 10 minutes...
John
- Thu Jun 14 13:49:49 2001

Nice one. You wouldn't get such fast support from Microsoft would you?!
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 14 13:24:18 2001

There you go Tom, I've done the update already and uploaded it, while I was having lunch! So if you get the latest version of Photo Studio, it now displays the Canon specific stuff in your images. There's a couple of unknown values in there, maybe I'll sort that out another time...
John
- Thu Jun 14 13:13:07 2001

Do you mean must, Mike?
John
- Thu Jun 14 12:41:06 2001

It mist be lunchtime. I'm starving.
Mike
- Thu Jun 14 12:32:10 2001

Nope Tom its OK the exif stuff would be more or less the same... there's a small section of Canon specific stuff in there which Photo Studio just displays as raw data at the moment, but rest assured soon enough I'll do an update which supports it fully... Its quite cool - it stores yours and Sarah's name along with each picture...
John
- Thu Jun 14 12:30:42 2001

Yeah! It's VERY cool... Tim would be pleased with it.. not quite chrome, but certainly brushed metal :-) The piccys on that site were all at 640x480, but it goes up to 1600x1200 at 2.1 MegaPixels etc etc... Do you want one of those (about 1.5Mb) to test too?
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 14 12:22:10 2001

Cheers Tom - aha! I see you have an Ixus! Very nice!
John
- Thu Jun 14 12:14:13 2001

NO. Here
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 14 09:41:21 2001

John, the "pure" images you are after are here
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 14 09:40:17 2001

Blimey I could do with a beer...
Mike
- Wed Jun 13 18:43:39 2001

If you think I'm being quiet for the next two weeks, it's cos i'm going to be in Florida. Yippee.
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 13 16:14:50 2001

Its not exactly cheese weather is it.
Mike
- Wed Jun 13 13:48:26 2001

Nice Beating the meat photos Johnny. I've sent the URL around the others that went! Cheers John me ole mukka. Rob
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
MADLAB, Reading - Wed Jun 13 13:36:28 2001

Its a bit quiet round here...
Mike
- Wed Jun 13 12:19:56 2001

...plus for the more military minded among you (try saying that after eight Guinesses), how about some bizarre pictures of Beating the Retreat. Right I'm off for some Ho Fun. Noodles that is.
John
- Tue Jun 12 19:02:27 2001

There now pictures available from Saturday when Simon etc came to London, largely for the benefit of Simon, but not also forgetting the entire Hungarian web fraternity.
John
- Tue Jun 12 17:52:51 2001

Blimey that looks messy hyperlinked. Lets have a go without.
john
John
- Tue Jun 12 16:41:37 2001

Try this.
John
- Tue Jun 12 16:40:03 2001

John mate, what's your current email address?
dsp
- Tue Jun 12 15:41:57 2001

Hmmm... the confusing "what" in that previous message should really be a "that". I hope thats clear.
John
- Tue Jun 12 13:13:14 2001

Hey boys and girls it's 20 years ago today when John Lennon died. Funnily enough, even though I was only four, I can remember that day - watching the news on an old black and white TV, in a house that had to be demolished a few months later because the back wall was structurally unsafe. My Mum was really upset. About John Lennon what is, not the house having to be demolished. She quite superbly once said that she'd seen the Beatles play, in Mansfield of all places, before they got all famous and mainstream. Nice to see that the "I heard of them first" phenomenom bridges the generation gap. Anyway, spare a thought for Julian, Yoko et al, and imagine all the people living life in peace. Yeah.
John
- Tue Jun 12 13:09:34 2001

Ahhhhhhh... I hadn't thought of that...
John
- Mon Jun 11 15:46:20 2001

John: Yeah it was pretty good - you should have came - it had a bar area with seats away from the band (you could talk OK) and a cool bar which was serving Corona with lime.....never mind......will try and arrange outdoor cooking device down here soon.........
Simon
- Mon Jun 11 15:46:12 2001

I reckon he (Rob) means gliding....
Simon
- Mon Jun 11 15:44:11 2001

Was it a typing error...? Did you mean clowns?
John
- Mon Jun 11 14:14:49 2001

Do you mean that drink and drugs institute on the telly?
John
- Mon Jun 11 14:14:11 2001

Flirting with clouds...? Hmmm... Whats that then?
John
- Mon Jun 11 14:00:15 2001

This weekend I was mostly flirting with clouds and driving my VW. Oh yeah.
Robert Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
MADLAB, Reading - Mon Jun 11 13:59:26 2001

Simon: AGH! Sounds really crap! Still, how was Luke Morley?
John
- Mon Jun 11 13:58:52 2001

John: Due to South West Trains being slammed in, we didn't get home until 3:30am!
Simon
- Mon Jun 11 13:18:36 2001

This weekend I was mostly writing TIFF and BMP support for Photo Studio.
John
- Mon Jun 11 12:26:22 2001

No worries old bean.....what ho!
Uncle Rockin' Chair
- Fri Jun 8 15:38:23 2001

No worries old bean.....what ho!
Uncle Rockin' Chair
- Fri Jun 8 15:37:52 2001

Thanks Uncle Rockin' Chair for the date check.
I'd actually put that mistake in to to get a response
from Jon Ellis, but he's never around anymore.
I miss you Jon Ellis!
dsp
- Fri Jun 8 13:30:22 2001

Alice: I will. But i just shutdown my laptop (writing this from my desktop) and the msg is stored therein. L8r.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 8 13:28:08 2001

You lot are all computer scientists!
ps. Tom please send post the error msg.
Alice
- Fri Jun 8 13:26:16 2001

Nice John NNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAIIIICCCCEE!
Simon
- Fri Jun 8 13:22:59 2001

12:30 at Waterloo sounds great to me. Under the ubiqutous clock (Pops will know what I mean), or just use generic mobile phone strategy upon arrival.
John
- Fri Jun 8 13:17:32 2001

No need to stop! I mean, if we can't post to an electronic message board about technical things, then what do we have left?
John
- Fri Jun 8 13:16:21 2001

**************** GENERAL WARNING ****************** /br Al Hall returning to the UK iminent
Al Hall Bureau
- Fri Jun 8 13:11:58 2001

Hmmm yeah....I hadn't realised a RIGHT OLD NERDFEST!!
Simon
- Fri Jun 8 13:05:45 2001

John: Would you like to meet us at 12:30 Waterloo then?
Simon
- Fri Jun 8 13:04:41 2001

I'd just like to mention how nice breasts are, in an attempt to moderate the tone of conversation.
John
- Fri Jun 8 12:47:39 2001

Just been reading the history of Musictaste....Thursday 6th June 2001 does not exist.....Mnnnph!!
Mr Nit Picky aka Simon
- Fri Jun 8 12:11:46 2001

Tim: Thanks for the stuff re the ADO error....the w2000 service pack looked like the answer, but it is still the same....perhaps its something to do with the fact we are calling ADO from a DLL and using err.raise or something...anyway I have some ideas of stuff to try now - cheers!
Simon
- Fri Jun 8 12:07:30 2001

It works fine on my W2000 machine as well!
Simon
- Fri Jun 8 12:05:14 2001

It works fine on my windows 2000 here
Cheers tim, just playing with the new version now. Tis very cool
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Fri Jun 8 12:03:04 2001

Mental note. Dont click reload on a cgi script.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 8 11:47:16 2001

Re: Musictaste and Windows 2000.. Um. It errors mentioning some ocx thing. I saved the error if your interested.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 8 11:46:45 2001

Re: Musictaste and Windows 2000.. Um. It errors mentioning some ocx thing. I saved the error if your interested.
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 8 11:46:41 2001

Tim: The biggest price difference depends on how many IP nodes there are being protected by it. This, sadly, includes routers, printers, servers.. ie anything with an IP address.

If you needed over 250 nodes, the prices get daft really. You are talking, without hardware, about 15K just for the software and without me making any money on it either!! The cost of consultancy depends on the complexity of the installation as is usual for these things. But you would expect to pay around 1000 per day (my last place chraged us aout at 1300 per day). If anyone offers less than 750, then they probably dont know what they are doing :-)

The 2Meg pipe is not a problem at all. The firewall will not be the bottleneck here :-)
rowanboy
- Fri Jun 8 11:45:42 2001

Andi, there's a new version of MusicTaste that filter's like you want. You have to specify the filter, and now it works. In the options, you can choose whether to show empty directories or not (its up to you).
Plus, does due to changes that were needed, this will not work with earlier datafiles. Sorry.
dsp
- Fri Jun 8 09:30:20 2001

Tom: What's the going rate (for a business) for Checkpoint #1, configured on a box? (prices for box provided and box not provided).
It needs to sit on the end of a 2mb pipe?
dsp
- Thu Jun 7 17:36:15 2001

BTW, I run the distributed.net client on my machines at home at the moment. This is busy cracking encryption codes. The major benefit being that it has a nice cow logo.
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 7 17:32:39 2001

DSP: You got it. You can run all of the tasks you described (including rendering pictures) on a Sparc. Building firewalls is the key thing I do with them. I use them to model the networks I'm about to build and then try and break in. Usual stuff.

The real plan is to build a managed service that runs in as automated way as possible. Then I shan't need the UD client to make money out of processor cycles. Imagine the nerdy satisfaction of having machines clicking away in your back room MAKING MONEY - on their OWN!! YES!
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 7 17:30:22 2001

I'm going to install it all over the place and get paid for other peoples computers doing the work....
rowanboy
- Thu Jun 7 17:26:05 2001

Ahh yess but they're probably an evil corporation who will charge $1000 a tablet for their wonderous cancer cure. And you can't bitch at them saying your computer cured cancer cos they can just say 'aaah, but we paid you for your processing time'.
Or am i just being cynical?
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Thu Jun 7 16:27:31 2001

Oh and you get paid for it, which is odd - people will use up their CPU time looking for aliens for free, but someone seems to think that you have to pay people to help save lives...?! Bizarre!
John
- Thu Jun 7 12:57:59 2001

Yep you want to go to the United Devices website.
John
- Thu Jun 7 12:56:02 2001

John, have you got more details on that?
dsp
- Thu Jun 7 12:40:43 2001

I think lots of people are changing from SETI now to that UD thing - it finds a cure for cancer using your PC's idle time. Which is nice.
John
- Thu Jun 7 12:36:49 2001

I'm running 2000 at home at the moment - or at least i was.
All the normal stuff is websurfing, irc, coding, image twiddling (i'd use the Gimp instead of photoshop), writing webpages etc.
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Thu Jun 7 10:57:04 2001

Also, what's 'all the normal stuff'? Pop11?
dsp
- Thu Jun 7 10:13:37 2001

Do you run NT/2000 or 95/98?
I'm Bill's bitch.
I am so the Windows Kid.
W
dsp
- Thu Jun 7 10:12:26 2001

Just fancied it as a second machine to do all the normal things on. The one i'm getting is quite a neat little one which will sit happily underneath a monitor. Although i'm not sure if/how i can connect a normal monitor to it - i might have to run it headless. Tom?

Also i'm getting really sick of windowsy instability - my pc refused to boot this morning and i have no idea why.
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Thu Jun 7 10:00:20 2001

Out of interest, what can you do with a Sparc?

• Run Linux/Unix obviously.
• Render scenes from Toystory, perhaps.
• Run Seti?
• Setup a router/firewall.
• Run Apache.

Graf, the immediate answer is no, not yet. But for now, when you are doing a search you can specify .mp3 as one of the search strings.
BTW: Have you tried the built-in player? I can't make my mind up if I prefer that or Winamp.
Also, have you used the Album/Artist feature (right-mouse menu) on the folder browser?
dsp
- Thu Jun 7 09:45:05 2001

Anyone done much with Java 3D? If so, please could you tell me if its easy and if there are any partcularly top books I should go for... Cheers.
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
Highmead Close, Reading - Thu Jun 7 00:22:40 2001

Oh dear. its catching LOL!
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 6 17:34:49 2001

I have a contact. I can get sparcs for you cheaply without bidding as of earlier today... interested?
graf
- Wed Jun 6 17:34:26 2001

Doh - its probably obvious how to make it filter, it's just that i'm too stupid to operate it. Just as i am too stupid to operate the message board.
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 6 17:22:15 2001

In musicmatch is there a way to get it to filter the contents of the directories - i added my desktop to the Collection but it picked up everything, not just sound files. And my sql scripts don't play too well in winamp :)
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 6 17:18:03 2001

In musicmatch is there a way to get it to filter the contents of the directories - i added my desktop to the Collection but it picked up everything, not just sound files. And my sql scripts don't play too well in winamp :)
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 6 17:17:31 2001

SQL Server 7/2000? MDAC 2.1/2.5/2.6?
dsp
- Wed Jun 6 13:38:59 2001

Checkout: Q255735 and Q255733 for help and related topics.
This typically occurs when calling an out-of-process compontent.
Are you using any out-of-process ActiveX dlls/exes or is a a simple exe?
dsp
- Wed Jun 6 13:38:19 2001

Tim: Just using ADO in VB - the message replaces all error messages - ie any error message becomes that - if you run the same code on a non-W2000 machine original error comes up correctly!
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 13:30:51 2001

That message is symptomatic of connection timeout problems.
What SQL are you xeecuting? SELECT *... a stored proc, and Insert, a Save or what? Are you using ADO within COM+?

dsp
- Wed Jun 6 13:07:29 2001

Tim: MusicTaste - Nice. Haven't yet tried it at home, but will as I still have all those CDS from the Radstock parties which I never use because I don't know what's on them! Problem solved!! Also nice to see Corduroy albums on the screenshot...Nice!
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 13:05:51 2001

John: If you would like to have lunch with us, meet is at 12:30 at Waterloo....
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 13:03:14 2001

All those with who use ADO in Windows 2000: Has anyone come across a problem where all DB errors get reported as 'Method '~' of object '~' failed' only when using Win 2000? If so how do you fix it pleeeeaaasssseee!
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 13:01:46 2001

John: Okey dokey - I'll call you when we are nearing London and this time we'll arrange the meeting place properly!!
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 12:58:13 2001

I dunno about taking away your ebay account, but I'd willingly take away a couple of those sun sparcs....
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 6 12:41:28 2001

I just bought another couple of Sun Sparcs from ebay. Why? Dunno. I've got 5 now. Someone take away my ebay account!!!
rowanboy
- Wed Jun 6 11:49:05 2001

Oui Monsieur Simon Watson, I would like very much to rendez vous avec your good self a Londres le weekend. Givez moi un phone call when you arrivez.
John
- Wed Jun 6 11:37:30 2001

I'd like to really poncily announce that I spent yesterday afternoon in the director's suite of the science museum. Which was nice.
John
- Wed Jun 6 11:34:44 2001

We've not had anyone trying to steal cd-roms. Apart from me when the msdn subscription stuff comes in. Except all we seem to have left now are Windows and Office in a million obscure languages.

Working here is ok - I don't get too deeply into the financial stuff really. Just writing C++/Java programs that talk to databases. Which is ok as long as you don't have to use Oracle.
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
- Wed Jun 6 11:12:08 2001

John: I've got lumps of it 'round the back.
Rob Lang <icar@icar.co.uk>
MADLAB, Reading - Wed Jun 6 10:55:58 2001

John: Do you want to meet up with us in London on Saturday?
Simon
- Wed Jun 6 10:46:51 2001

Hey, sorry Andi, I was wondering who worked at Accurate 'cos the name appeared as the requesting proxy server in the log files of the musictaste website.
I didn't know you did banking and finance stuff. Is it interesting? Do you get people dangling in from the ceiling trying to steal CDRoms?
dsp
- Wed Jun 6 10:02:07 2001

I remember why I came now! Can you change my email address to tom.rowan@securityalchemy.net please?
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 17:56:23 2001

Sorry.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 17:52:31 2001

Not important really, but if you place you mouse over the "Mail" icon on the AddMessage page, it says
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 17:44:05 2001

That would be me... Why?
Graf <graf@altavista.net>
Listening to Frank Black mp3s on a playlist made by MusicTaste, Nice one tim :) - Tue Jun 5 16:56:14 2001

I have an Canon Ixus. I will get you some "pure" images as soon as I get home.
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 16:03:42 2001

Er, that would be no.
dsp
- Tue Jun 5 15:43:32 2001

I thought you'd like that Tim. Have you seen the Samuel L. Jackson version?
Jon E
- Tue Jun 5 15:35:35 2001

LOL!
dsp
- Tue Jun 5 14:18:29 2001

Shaft?
jon E
- Tue Jun 5 14:09:41 2001

Who's working at Accurate doing banking stuff?
dsp
- Tue Jun 5 14:04:18 2001

I like Tim's website. It's a funky adventure.

- Tue Jun 5 13:01:50 2001

Tim: I seem to be liking it.
Jon
- Tue Jun 5 13:00:33 2001

If anyone has a large collection of mp3s on CDROMs, Servers and hard discs, I've written an organisation program I find quite useful.
I'm still writing it, so if you want features adding, it can always happen.
Its available to download from www.musictaste.co.uk. Sorry for the cliche, but the website is still under construction.
dsp
- Tue Jun 5 12:36:57 2001

No broadband?
Ha ha!!
nelson
- Tue Jun 5 12:05:06 2001

P.S. Tom what camera have you got? Can I have a picture from it (pre any kind of editing so all the camera information is intact)...?
John
- Tue Jun 5 11:36:22 2001

Tom: you definitely want some kind of adapter. I mainly use a PCMCIA adapter and it is rediculously fast and also very cheap - mine cost about 12 quid here - they give them away free with cornflakes in Japan. Also it means I can insanely plug my digital camera card into my printer, and print without a PC at all. My Dad just bought a little USB reader that does both Compact Flash and SmartMedia and it was about 30 quid ish. You can get even cheaper than that. Both types of adapter have the advantage that they generally map as an additional drive in Windows (so Photo Studio reads directly from them), are very fast, and also don't require your camera to be turned on and using batteries.
John
- Tue Jun 5 11:35:10 2001

Ooooooh no TWAIN is evil, it decompresses your images into uncimpressed TIFF if I recall - if you want to then store them as JPEGs you have to recompress them... Slow. Lossy. Nasty.
John
- Tue Jun 5 11:26:48 2001

Re: Bridge Hotel pics
All Swans must DIE!!
dsp
- Tue Jun 5 11:21:28 2001

John: My camera comes with a TWAIN driver.. You could hook PhotoStudio into TWAIN import and then you would instantly support all flatbed and hand scanners too :-)
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 11:14:37 2001

If you would like to see my horrible hotel, click here
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 11:07:18 2001

I think you have to get a Compact Flash adapter to get it to work like that:

"With notebooks and other computers equipped with PC card slots, you can remove the CF card from the camera and connect using a PC card adapter. "
Rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 11:04:54 2001

JonE.. I am quite upset that my camera does not do this thing. Hmm. Doh. :-)
rowanboy
- Tue Jun 5 11:02:53 2001

I would like to apologise for not messaging on a more regular basis. The reason being is that I can't be arsed, well that and not being given the god damn time, from this money grabbing corporation which I work for. Did you know that they don't even give us toilets? we have to urinate at our desks.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 5 08:11:03 2001

John, to answer your question, no. I have not written anything USB'ed, though I would like to say that I love you.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 5 08:08:28 2001

I think I've just successfully dissed the drivers of Tom's camera. Wahoo my work here is done.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 5 08:06:46 2001

Of course if you had a half decent USB driver then your camera would just come up as mapped network drives on your machine and so no need for John's excellent programs to have to provide customised one off interfaces.
Jon E
- Tue Jun 5 08:06:04 2001

No it can't do USB at the moment although I would like it to- I have a feeling each camera uses ad hoc drivers and protocols for its USB interface, whereas the old fashioned serial stuff was pretty generic (partly because quite a few supposedly different makes are actually made by the same company)... It was a surprisingly immense ballache to get the serial version to work, but it seemed worth it because it would then work for quite a few different cameras... It'd probably only be worth adding USB support if it would cover more than one camera really... Hmmm has anyone written anything USBish for anything else? I don't think it goes through COM ports and file handles nicely like the serial interface does...
John
- Mon Jun 4 20:12:09 2001

Oh Johnny Boy..! Nice new version of PhotoStudio (tm). Can it work with USB for the import function in any way? I finally bought a camera and it is dead useful, but I have to import into Photoshop first I think?! Nice one anyways :-)
rowanboy
- Mon Jun 4 18:09:07 2001

I know the feeling.
John
- Mon Jun 4 16:40:03 2001

Fucking hell I'm bored.
Mike
- Mon Jun 4 16:39:39 2001

By the way, I saw your Japan pictures. You really got about a bit didn't you! I might be going later this year... but as always its money isn't it? Plus Julie would rather go somewhere more, errr, beachy.
Mike
- Mon Jun 4 16:36:13 2001

Thanks Mike.
John
- Mon Jun 4 16:34:15 2001

Hey John, I bet you were thinking for a while there it was only going to be you posting messages today, but don't worry - the world isn't totally full of ignorant sods!
Michael Gibbons
- Mon Jun 4 16:33:57 2001

In fact the whole lot is there now, right from the 7th to the 24th! Thank heavens for BulletProof!
John
- Mon Jun 4 15:55:48 2001

I've been trying to get all of my Japan pictures uploaded. The ones from the 14th (afternoon) in Hiroshima, 14th (evening) in Nagoya, 15th in Nagoya, 16th still in Nagoya, 17th in Tokyo and 18th also in Tokyo are all now available, and the rest are uploading right now. No comments on any of them, but there might be eventually one day...
John
- Mon Jun 4 13:14:33 2001

Its been a bit quiet round here recently hasn't it? Where is everybody?
John
- Mon Jun 4 12:42:46 2001